2012-11-11 ( 31 edited messages ) DOMestic is much more frequent and up to date here:- http://www.mschristine.com/DOMestic_Blog/ DOMestic latest posts including the reader replies here:- http://u4ds.com/replies.shtml Below is an archive digest of past posts.... # C: cuddling, spanking, bondage and role-play # Re: C: cuddling, spanking, bondage and role-play x4 # C: I am unproven as a sub # Re: C: I am unproven as a sub # C: Introduction - Domestic Discipline # Re: C: Introduction - Domestic Discipline x 3 # C: domestic humiliation and paddling # Re: C: Birdlocked male chastity belt in silicone # Re: C: Do Mistresses ever TAKE a "vanilla" male? # Poem: My Heart Grows Ever Fonder # Re: Poem: My Heart Grows Ever Fonder # Re: C: electric with anticipation of being zapped # Re: C: femdom community for over 60s # C: Governance from Madame Fem Dom compendium # Re: C: Hood Reviews - FemDom rubber fetish reality # Re: C: nuked begins a new relationship x 2 # P: Denial the fantasy and the reality # Re: P: Denial the fantasy and the reality # Re: P: fag pig dog bitch - online or phone slave x 2 # S: Dress Code - Chapter 1 # Re: S: Dress Code - Chapter 1 # S: Jim's Story - part thirty-seven # Re: S: Jim's Story - part thirty-seven Reply by email or post your message to DOMestic at:- http://u4ds.com/ The Fem Dom Training Program. Train your husband/lover. http://u4ds.com/program * * * start of the digest * * * C: cuddling, spanking, bondage and role-play http://u4ds.com/2012/03/cuddling_spanking_bondage_and.shtml Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:49:23 +0000 From: Autumn I'm a 61 year old woman, since a few years on my own again after a long and for the latter part most unfulfilling marriage of which the last 5 years we slept separately. Since 5 months I have a 'relationship' that stutters on a few cylinders. We live about 500 miles apart, and he's been here three times now. The problem (if that is the word) is that he wants me to dominate. Dom/sub is something I'd never encountered before, although I knew it existed. My own sexual experience up till now had been pretty average: groping, hardly any foreplay, and penetration. If I have to be honest, 'frustrating and repetitive' would be an apt description. He is becoming quite important to me. I'm not in love, but I thoroughly enjoy his company, the banter, the exchange of tastes in books, music, etc. He is growing on me. I would love to keep seeing him for a long time to come. Although it'll only be 12 times a year at the most that we'll meet up, due to the distance, I think I can live with that, because the times together are so fulfilling to me. I physically react to him in a way I've never experienced before. I'll get to the point. Although spanking, bondage, etc were completely novel to me, I've engaged in those activities because it thoroughly turns him on. Because I wanted to know what the sensations were that I caused, I've been subjected to it as well at my own request, and found it rather titillating and arousing. But I only like it in a playful, soft, way. He likes it much harder and longer. I am not sure how to proceed now. I'd rather stick to living out fantasies in and around the house, (although the odd naughty private game in public is also part of my fantasies), but he often talks about taking me to clubs for participation of third parties. Although admittedly I can fantasise about that, I am pretty sure that acting out those fantasies would result in a nasty hangover for me. As you see, I am not staid in my convictions. I am curious, and willing to explore, to indulge, to indulge him, but up to a certain point. If what happens crosses a line, it would then leave a taste in my mouth that would be difficult to get rid of. I'm afraid it would ruin/spoil things between us. On the other hand - when I introduced him to the delights of simple cuddling - something he had no experience with and was initially not interested in - he was surprised that he liked it so much. You see - we're both learning things from each other. My question is - as he has had his fantasies for many years but - as I gather - hardly had the opportunity to act them out, is it possible that his fantasies became harder because of that? I don't want to restrict him, but neither do I want to get into territory that's uncomfortable for me. In a Dom/sub relationship, is it 'allowed' to drop the role-play every now and then? I mean - the way things are going thus far, he comes up for 3 days at the most. I am happy to be Dominant for a while; it is quite appealing. But I also have my own desires, which definitely would involve snuggling up to each other, cuddling. I have been without physical warmth for so many years, and I crave it so much. Does this stand perpendicular to Dom/sub? How can I fit that in without destroying/interrupting? Sorry if I seem clumsy, but what is happening in my life now is so bewildering, so exciting, so... dunno how to describe it. I don't want to ruin it, but still want be able to find myself in it. I do not believe I'm the only one who finds herself in this position, but it's hardly a subject I can talk about with my less adventurous friends. Any suggestions or advice you can give me would be most appreciated. Regards, Autumn * * * next message * * * Re: C: cuddling, spanking, bondage and role-play http://u4ds.com/2012/03/cuddling_spanking_bondage_and.shtml Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:03:38 +0000 From: Autumn Thank you for posting my message, Christine. I hope somebody can help me out. As I explained, the intervals between his visits are so long, I don't want to ruin the precious moments when he's with me. In hope, Autumn * * * next message * * * Re: C: cuddling, spanking, bondage and role-play http://u4ds.com/2012/03/cuddling_spanking_bondage_and.shtml Date: 21 Aug 2012 14:31:45 -0000 From: MsHourglass Autumn, I have been on this site for years. It is difficult to be confident in what you want when this is all new to you, but the heart of your answer is in what you said you like. Why not tell him, the next time there is a visit, the only activities that will happen are the ones you want, and you will not be taking his requests for spanking or bondage etc - it will not happen unless you wish it to. Since he would really like you to take charge, do it in your own way. If you want just to cuddle, do it, if you want him kneeling or cleaning the kitchen floor, tell him. He cannot or should not have it both ways, you in charge but doing what he wants. Also, maybe less so when you are in your 60s, but tell him there will be no sex unless he does everything you say, and maybe just orgasms for you, see how his attitude improves. Best wishes to you. MsHourglass * * * next message * * * Re: C: cuddling, spanking, bondage and role-play http://u4ds.com/2012/03/cuddling_spanking_bondage_and.shtml Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:01:29 +0100 From: Autumn Thank you so much for that reply, Ms Hourglass. Although my query was submitted quite a few months ago, it is still very much valid. You really helped me here. Yours, with grateful thanks. Autumn * * * next message * * * Re: C: cuddling, spanking, bondage and role-play http://u4ds.com/2012/03/cuddling_spanking_bondage_and.shtml Date: 2 Nov 2012 21:05:50 -0000 From: Susan Autumn You have done really well to start exploring this. Hopefully, as time goes by you will see what the benefits are to you and to start wanting his submission for your pleasure and satisfaction. I too enjoy a cuddle - when I want it I generally, but not always like a cuddle after I have made him give me an orgasm with oral sex. (I do not wish for a cuddle beforehand as I enjoy foot worship for foreplay.) I simply tell him to come and lay along side me afterwards and then allow him to put his arms around me. He seems to find this very pleasurable. Last thing at night I allow him to get on the bed (not in it) beside me and we have a little chat and then I initiate the cuddle. When I am ready, I simply tell him to go to bed - I prefer to sleep by myself. Again he seems happy to be allowed this intimacy. I suspect that he may enjoy the cuddle more if you make it plain that he is very privileged to be allowed to serve you in that way. Make sure that he does not behave in a disrespectful way (your decision as to what is disrespectful) and that you decide when the service is to end. In other words use the cuddle as an extension of his service and you will both get what you want. You will not be dropping the Dom sub role, you will simply be using it to get what you want. The Dom sub role is about you getting what you want. He will find it a lot more satisfying if he understands that you are always seeking what you want in the way that you want it and that you are not interested in doing it the way he wants unless by some small chance that happens to be the way you want. Let him understand that if you do smack him, have him over your knee, cane him etc it is because that is what you want either because the action itself gives you pleasure or because you are going to punish him for some failure on his part. As you are the dominant there is no question of him taking you to clubs, you will be the one who takes him anywhere you may wish to go, he is simply allowed to accompany you. Do not feel pressurised into doing something you are uncomfortable with. He may have a fantasy of being seen in public as a submissive but that is his fantasy not yours (at this time). It may be interesting for you to explore this verbally with him as part of your teasing and denial, you might explore how he views it, whether he reacts to the idea because it is humiliating, whether it is because he is proud of you as his dominant and wants to show you off. He is incredibly fortunate that you are willing to explore this, there are thousands of men out there who would give their eye teeth to be in his position. * * * next message * * * C: I am unproven as a sub http://u4ds.com/2012/06/i_am_unproven_as_a_sub.shtml From: Suzanne Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 12:13:25 -0500 Help please, I am new to all this. I am in a one month relationship that is still in the online stage. I have never been in a D/s relationship before. The guy seems very genuine and explains much to me. He has been pleased with my progress and told me he would increase the level of control over me. He has been very good about educating me and patient with me. One of the things he had asked me to do was write to him about some particular sexual experiences I've had. I didn't have time. He expressed his displeasure over that yesterday and spoke to me sharply. It hurt my feelings because I felt like we were growing so close and he had just said the day before that we are gaining trust in each other every day and it shows. And that I had pleased him. Well I did not react well to him speaking sharply to me first thing in the morning. And I asked him not to growl. I wasn't insolent but I complained and I gave excuses about why I had not completed my writing assignment. I know he is just tightening the screws as he promised he would. I am unproven as a sub. He says his job is to slowly educate me till one or both of us knows this life is not for me - or I wonder where it has been all my life. He hasn't written to me since snapping at me. I finished my writing assignment and I have written apologies and that his silence seems to be my punishment, that I accept and deserve it and am trying to learn from it. It just would be so very nice if I had anyone I could talk to about this path and the relationship. I found your blog to be the most helpful one I've read so far. Is there a way to subscribe to it via email? Thanks so much. Suzy * * * next message * * * Re: C: I am unproven as a sub http://u4ds.com/2012/06/i_am_unproven_as_a_sub.shtml Date: 2 Nov 2012 21:35:25 -0000 From: Susan I think, that if at all possible, you should arrange a vanilla meeting with this man. Make sure it is in a public place and that before you do it you have things like his private address, home telephone number, car registration. Make sure you have a safety call to a friend lined up and that you make that call and that if he/she does not get the call they know these same contact details. When you have met him in person you can make a better judgement as to how genuine he is and whether he is the one you want to be in a relationship with. In my opinion, I find that some men are only interested in wanking material and you are being asked to provide that for him. For your other bits, yes, some men will use silence as a punishment. * * * next message * * * C: Introduction - Domestic Discipline http://u4ds.com/2012/10/introduction_-_domestic_discip.shtml Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 02:48:07 -0000 From: "David R" Ms Christine and everyone, Let me begin by saying hello to everyone. My name is David and my wonderful wife and I have been involved with Domestic Discipline for a number of years. My goal here is to meet others who share the same interests. Hopefully share experiences and ideas. Look forward to meeting you. David R * * * next message * * * Re: C: Introduction - Domestic Discipline http://u4ds.com/2012/10/introduction_-_domestic_discip.shtml From: "David" at u4ds.com Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:13:26 +0100 Hello and welcome David, "David" wrote: >My name is David Snap. That's my name too. >and my wonderful wife and I have been involved with Domestic >Discipline for a number of years. That's a major interest for us too. My wonderful partner, Christine, and I could be described similarly. >My goal here is to meet others who share the same interests. >Hopefully share experiences and ideas. As you can tell by the group name "DOMestic" - you've come to the right place, although people seem to have dried up on sharing here recently. Maybe you can start the ball rolling again by telling us a bit more about what Domestic Discipline is to you and your wife. sincerely, David at Ms-Christine.com * * * next message * * * Re: C: Introduction - Domestic Discipline http://u4ds.com/2012/10/introduction_-_domestic_discip.shtml Date: 2 Oct 2012 18:51:29 -0000 From: David R For both my wife and I, it's been a journey of learning about each other. When we first began exploring BDSM. We didn't really have much information or experience. So it was more about playing and doing roleplay scenarios. Before there was such a term as Domestic Discipline. I knew that was the kind of relationship I was wanting. My wife enjoyed the power she had over me. Enjoyed the personal servitude and power to address behaviors and actions she deemed inappropriate. Then came the Disciplinary Wives Club which changed our whole approach to what we had been doing up to that point. Since then, my life has changed in many ways. I am held to a fairly strict standard of behavior. I refer to my wife as, Ma'am! And I suffer real consequences when I misbehave or disobey her. Corporal punishment, cornertime and humiliation are tools along with enemas, mouthsoaping and bondage that are used in our household to enforce her authority. I love it! Everything about it. And when I'm restrained on the bed getting my behind blistered. Despite the pain, I know that in the end. I would rather be there than not. * * * next message * * * Re: C: Introduction - Domestic Discipline http://u4ds.com/2012/10/introduction_-_domestic_discip.shtml Date: 2 Nov 2012 21:23:41 -0000 From: Susan Isn't it lovely, boys don't like the pain, don't want the pain (well some of them) but would rather have the pain and know that their wives are getting what they want than not be in D/s relationship. Personally, I do the punishing because it makes a difference to his behaviour and gets rid of my feelings of being upset and disappointed with him. I would rather not do it but if it needs doing then I try to do it so it only has to be done once for that offence. I would consider I had really failed if I had to do it more than once. But I do like having him over my knee. That is how we start off most mornings (when he is here) and that is what happens soon after he gets here. Puts us both in our proper positions, a proper frame of mind. For me that is Domestic Discipline. * * * next message * * * C: domestic humiliation and paddling http://u4ds.com/2012/10/domestic_humiliation_and_paddl.shtml Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 06:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David R We go through periods where every day. I spend 45 minutes secured to the bed with a very wet diaper tightly taped around my head. (image displays here on blog) Once that is done, the restraints are put on. I am spanked as soon as the restraints are in place. Then my wife will start the timer. And typically I will be spanked sporadically during the 45 minutes depending on what my wife has going on. (image displays here on blog) Before the restraints come off and I am allowed to shower. I usually get the harder spanking. It is in fact a diaper on my head! We aren't into AB stuff! The diaper thing is about humiliation and creating my sub space. This photo was of me getting ready to put my face in it. (image displays here on blog) When my face is in a diaper. I am required to sniff it non stop keeping my face down. Especially while being spanked. Ms Christine, here is another photo to illustrate what I mean. Feel free to post the photos. (image displays here on blog) Thank you for your understanding. David R * * * next message * * * Re: C: Birdlocked male chastity belt in silicone http://u4ds.com/2009/06/birdlocked_male_chastity_belt.shtml Date: 3 Mar 2012 19:35:06 -0000 From: Mike J I've got several chastity devices, CB-2000, CB-3000, CB-6000, and Curve, but Birdlocked is the only one I can't fit. I bought the biggest size, this is not a boast, but even with lots of lube, the cockring bit is just too small. It feels good and I'm sure it would be very comfortable to wear but again... I can't get it on! * * * next message * * * Re: C: Do Mistresses ever TAKE a "vanilla" male? http://u4ds.com/2011/05/do_mistresses_ever_take_a_vani.shtml Date: 28 Jan 2012 10:15:59 -0000 From: Strong and Sweet MN I adore strong submissive men, they are hard to find. Let's face it, we are all a little quirky here. I embrace those unique qualities in myself, and in the submissive men I am attracted to. Vanilla is a nice articulation. I have no interest in leather, it doesn't enhance my best features:). The qualities of a submissive man does:) He helps bring out my softer side. * * * next message * * * Poem: My Heart Grows Ever Fonder http://u4ds.com/2012/07/my_heart_grows_ever_fonder.shtml Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 04:44:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Song Re: The Heart Grows Fonder Hello David and Christine, I thought you might be interested in this poem. Several years ago, I came across your wonderful poem "The Heart Grows Fonder", David, and it resonated so profoundly with me that I penned a response. I have used this in several online profiles about myself on bdsm websites... anyway, I've always had it at the back of my mind to send it to you - to share with you the inspiration you've inadvertently sparked by writing such a fantastic poem! And I truly adore your poem! Just as an aside, I am a lifestyle Domme, poet, writer and singer from New Zealand. Pleased to meet you! You can find me on the website "Fetlife" under the name "Song". My Heart Grows Ever Fonder. Me above, you below, beneath my leather glove, as we move sinuously to the sweet harmony, of each moan and sigh deliciously coaxed, for my amusement, for my pleasure. In service to me, your purpose is clear, your lips and tongue my tools. Your body my canvas of willing flesh; splayed in such ceremonious dedication. I carve on your bones my name, an eternal incision of love. My cruel and tender attentions; your privilege. My reward, your absolute surrender. My hands: hard, unyielding upon you. My heart throbbing with gratitude, as I urge you to rapturous degradation, yet deny you absolution at my altar - till I have reached my final end, as you kneel reverently, chaste to all but me. My ecstasy mirrored in your eyes; my joyous truth, owning the man I love. Regards, Song (link to poem by david included on blog) * * * next message * * * Re: Poem: My Heart Grows Ever Fonder http://u4ds.com/2012/07/my_heart_grows_ever_fonder.shtml Date: 6 Aug 2012 20:19:45 -0000 From: MissScarlett I really love this poem, it's just wonderful. I'm Miss Scarlett, I live in the Netherlands * * * next message * * * Re: C: electric with anticipation of being zapped http://u4ds.com/2010/08/electric_with_anticipation_of.shtml Date: 11 Jan 2012 04:26:30 -0000 From: Madame Pontellier A more accessible option for wife and husband that want the thrill of her having a remote control on your cock, without actually having to worry about permanently damaging his reproductive organs, try a remote control vibrating cock ring. Turn it upside down, and it WILL get his attention. I wrote more about the safer cock shock collar here:- (link displays here on the DOMestic blog) * * * next message * * * Re: C: femdom community for over 60s http://u4ds.com/2011/10/femdom_community_for_over_60s.shtml Date: 7 Oct 2012 21:37:37 -0000 From: quitodoux Hallo Bullawk4, thank you for keeping your eyes open for me. I live in Berlin, which is a very liberal city with a gay Lord Mayor, who has a chance to be elected for a third term. You can find all kind of kinky people here who are not hiding but coming out. Munches and clubs for all types of lifestyle bdsm are booming. Like probably everywhere in this world there are many more male subs than lifestyle Dominant Ladies. And there seems to be not a single one over 60 interested in a sub over 70. As I am fluent in English and French and have a reasonable command of Spanish, I have tried it also in international forums. Also, I have no obvious handicap. Strange world or do I make some basic mistakes in my search in the FemDom community? * * * next message * * * C: Governance from Madame Fem Dom compendium http://u4ds.com/2012/04/governance_from_madame_fem_dom.shtml Date: 26 Apr 2012 14:27:27 -0000 From: rfrub I guess some of us here will be quite interested in vintage FemDom literature. Here is one that's on Ebay.. "GOVERNANCE No 5 from Madame! FEM DOM compendium." Quick web searching revealed little more about the title. Some erotica is quite simply rare, not very much was printed in the first place. Does anyone know more about this title? The Undergrowth of Literature book is useful for this older material. I also see how much Shiny magazines can now fetch as the age of print passes away. * * * next message * * * Re: C: Hood Reviews - FemDom rubber fetish reality http://u4ds.com/2010/05/hood_reviews_femdom_rubber_f.shtml Date: 27 Feb 2012 22:42:59 -0000 From: Fuller Very sad to hear Denber have gone downhill since it's been taken over recently. I used to enjoy their products very much, but i won't wait 6 weeks for a delivery, and they won't deal with the public any longer. * * * next message * * * Re: C: nuked begins a new relationship http://u4ds.com/2011/04/nuked_begins_a_new_relationshi.shtml From: nuked Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 02:57:58 -0700 Happy New Years to all, On 22 May 2011 slave darryl Ducharme nuked_potatoes wrote: >wonderful new relationship -snip- Mary Mary and i had a falling out... i swear i did everything i could... was like owning a boat, more and more and more money poof down the drain and nothing coming from it - not her or i going ahead, more like enabling... was nice though - lasted a year HEY! Ms Sabre - is it You from Texas? nuked * * * next message * * * Re: C: nuked begins a new relationship http://u4ds.com/2011/04/nuked_begins_a_new_relationshi.shtml Date: 2 Nov 2012 21:16:13 -0000 From: Susan Sorry it did not work out darryl, At least you had a year but maybe next time. * * * next message * * * P: Denial the fantasy and the reality http://u4ds.com/2012/06/denial_the_fantasy_and_the_rea.shtml Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:56:55 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Carter I am a 49 year old male based in the uk. I have become fascinated by the prospect of being denied but sometimes allowed, hopefully, release. I gather this is a common fantasy. I suppose my ideal fantasy would be to serve a couple of good looking twenty something goddesses being locked in a chastity device and each of them to have a key. I would do all their housework and garden duties, sweating and toiling all day for their benefit. Maybe at the end of a day one or the other would unlock me so I could self relieve. More often I would be mocked and dismissed to spend another night building up my tension until one or the other showed mercy. The fantasy is not going to happen as I am in a loving vanilla relationship but, due to circumstances, now celibate. Would it appeal to any lady readers to email me from time to time to deny and allow me to masturbate at their say so? I would find this very exciting. Possibly it would amuse some lady to exercise distance control in this way. Possibly a girl with a male partner sub to demonstrate to him her power across the world. If I were to receive communication I would always reply respectfully. I am happy for DOMestic to publish to my email address. One final point I would never wish to offend any lady readers and hopefully I have put my request in a polite manner, thank you Paul (email address displays here on the DOMestic blog) * * * next message * * * Re: P: Denial the fantasy and the reality http://u4ds.com/2012/06/denial_the_fantasy_and_the_rea.shtml Date: 25 Jun 2012 18:59:00 -0000 From: jboy2386 Paul Carter wrote: >Would it appeal to any lady readers to email me from time to >time to deny and allow me to masturbate at their say so? Hi Paul, Good luck with finding someone. However you have to realize that an email tease and denial might not be all it's cracked up to be in your mind. Being denied by a woman you can see everyday, catching an exciting glimpse of her body, but being told you wont be getting any. Playing t&d games is all intense fun. Being alone, I bet you anything you like, you jerk off at the first email and feel guilty from then on. Somehow remote doesn't quite work - for me anyway. There are some on-line jerk off control programs that make you edge and then do humiliating things before they let you squirt. Maybe one of those might help. * * * next message * * * Re: P: fag pig dog bitch - online or phone slave http://u4ds.com/2009/07/fag_pig_dog_bitch_-_online_or.shtml Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:16:14 -0000 From: "skunk" aka starfox27588 slave in nc pig looking to become a slave to any owner out there either in real life or online. willing to do almost anything? (email address displays here on the DOMestic blog) * * * next message * * * Re: P: fag pig dog bitch - online or phone slave http://u4ds.com/2009/07/fag_pig_dog_bitch_-_online_or.shtml Date: 10 Oct 2012 19:17:16 -0000 From: Sissy Boitcj I am a little dicked white sissy bitch seeking to serve blacks. This fag loves to suck the black dick (link displays here on the DOMestic blog) * * * next message * * * S: Dress Code - Chapter 1 http://u4ds.com/2012/02/dress_code_-_chapter_1.shtml Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 08:36:44 -0800 (PST) From: Shoekisser Dress Code Chapter 1 "Employee must keep legs cleanly shaven and remove all unnecessary body hair. The following articles of clothing are mandatory: skirt and blouse or dress, bra, panties, garter belt, hose, and heels. No slacks, trousers, or any article of male clothing will be permitted. Hair style, makeup, nails, and jewellery will be appropriate for professional business attire. Wigs are not permitted. Employee's supervisor will be the sole judge of compliance with this contract, and may inspect employee at any time to determine compliance." I re-read this paragraph 3 times, and then moved on to the next high-lighted section. "Failure to comply with any portion of this dress code will be grounds for immediate termination with loss of all compensation and benefits. In addition, in case of termination, employee shall owe the company an amount equal to one year's salary." The last high-lighted section read, "Section 4 shall apply to all employees." I checked and found that section 4 was the above dress code, the first high-lighted paragraph. At the bottom of the page, also high-lighted, was my signature. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - How did I get myself into this mess? Let me try to explain. I had spent years in a dead end job with no chance for advancement, no hope for more money, and no challenge. Over the last year, I had been sending out resumes, all of which were ignored. Thus, when I received a request for an interview, I was ecstatic. The interviewer was a very attractive woman who was favorably impressed with my qualifications. I felt the job description had been written with my experience in mind. In addition, I met a number of beautiful and well-dressed women employees, all of whom were very friendly. Then the interviewer offered me a job at a salary roughly double my existing one. When she handed me a multi-page employment contract, I had confirmed that the salary figure on the first page was the same as she had mentioned, quickly scanned the rest, and signed. We agreed on a start date that would give me time to notify my employer, and I left, practically skipping. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prior to my start date, I had my best suit cleaned and pressed, shined my shoes, and even bought a very expensive tie. When I arrived, the receptionist smiled until I told her my name. She then scowled, turned her back, and made a phone call. After that, she ignored me. Obviously she was having a bad day, so I turned my attention to the other lovelies who were within view. Same reaction. The few I was able to make eye contact with, gave me dirty looks and turned their faces away. Finally, I saw a door open and my interviewer standing in it. She looked me up and down for 30 seconds, then snapped, "Come with me..." and disappeared through the doorway. I followed her into a hallway and then into a conference room. She slapped a file down on the table, snapped, "Read this!" and left. I sat and read the employment contract. Finally, she returned. "Have you read it?" "Yes" "Do you understand it?" "Yes" "Including the part about the dress code?" "Well, I don't understand the relevance. It's all about women's clothes, and doesn't apply to me." "It applies to all employees, as stated near the end." "You certainly don't expect me......" She interrupted, "I certainly do expect you to comply, the same as any other employee. This company started 50 years ago, with all female employees, and the dress code has been in effect since then. It has been very effective in eliminating any tendency for sloppy or inappropriate attire. The company is not going to modify the dress code just because you are male. To do so would open us to charges of sexual discrimination. I didn't know how to respond to this, so I kept quiet. "Now that we have established the relevancy, would you say you are complying with it?" "No, of course......" She interrupted again to ask her assistant, who had entered the room without me being aware of it, "Amy, do you think he is complying with the corporate dress code?" Amy looked me up and down with entirely too much interest, licked her lips, and said, "Not even close." "Then, it's unanimous, you are not in compliance, and are subject to immediate dismissal. You have a decision to make. You can either agree to comply here and now, or write a check for one year's salary, and leave." "I don't have that kind of money." "That's your problem. Which is it going to be? I thought for a moment, saw no alternative to going along with their crazy idea, at least for now until I figured a way out of this and said, "OK, I'll do it." * * * next message * * * Re: S: Dress Code - Chapter 1 http://u4ds.com/2012/02/dress_code_-_chapter_1.shtml Date: 15 May 2012 07:33:06 -0000 From: debra i love the story please continue it... but i'm bald and would need a wig * * * next message * * * Re: S: Dress Code - Chapter 1 http://u4ds.com/2012/02/dress_code_-_chapter_1.shtml Date: 3 Jul 2012 13:33:24 -0000 From: Ms.Marcia debra wrote: >"but i'm bald and would need a wig" Really dear. I don't see why. * * * next message * * * S: Jim's Story - part thirty-seven http://u4ds.com/2012/01/jims_story_-_part_thirty-seven.shtml Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2012 20:34:01 -0500 From: randolphus Jim's Story by randolphus part thirty-seven Tuesday I was having a meeting with Carmen and two of the programmers about our web site. I stood behind my desk and my guests sat. I suppressed a yawn. Carmen said: "Did you sleep well last night?" I said: "Yes thank you, Miss Carmen." I didn't want to discuss last night. We were discussing debugging techniques. We received reports that our page didn't work sometimes. I listed some things that could be done, that should have been done, but I wouldn't point that out. It was accepted and the meeting was ended. Carmen said: "Did I cause you to stand in the corner all night?" I said: "Yes ma'am;" I tried to remove any feeling from the reply. Carmen said: "Are you being pouty?" I said: "No ma'am, not at all." Carmen said: "Betty is your governess; maybe I'll give her a call." I said: "Miss Carmen, I didn't raise the subject, I understood why I was punished, and I'm not pouting." Carmen said: "You're afraid of Betty?" I said: "I guess I am Miss Carmen." Carmen said: "I saw how you bolted upstairs when she told you to go." I said: "Yes ma'am." Carmen said: "What do you want to say?" I said: "I realized how angry everyone was with me when I brought dinner back last night." Carmen said: "They weren't mad at you; we had an argument about whether you should be here or not. Betty said that if you have to clean monitors and toilets that you're not needed here and that she has plenty of toilets for you to clean. Sarah said that you're needed here but Peggy wants you to be humiliated. I was on the fence; like today's meeting we need you. But I agree with Betty, your time is valuable." I described to Carmen what Betty's regimen was like. I said: "She wants me to get her permission for anything I do." Carmen said: "So do I." I said: "I'm not resisting, but do I have to get permission to go to the bathroom?" Carmen said: "YES." I assumed Carmen was joking: I said: "And the other extreme, I can't do nice things like serve appetizers or buy surprises." Carmen said: "You can't make those decisions; you need your mistress to decide and give you permission." I said: "Yes ma'am;" I knew arguing would lead to more trouble for me. Carmen said: "Betty and I will work on you together. Will you like that?" I said: "Miss Carmen, I like everything you do." Carmen said: "Betty and Peggy are having lunch and I was invited." I said: "Miss Carmen, I would like to look into some of the backup problems we discussed, May I?" Carmen said: "Yes but don't forget your chores." I said: "Thank you ma'am." I didn't want to think about what Peggy and Betty and Carmen would discuss. I focused on cleaning toilets. There is more to it than just elbow grease but the point of it all was to humiliate me. I realize I was thinking bad thoughts that lead to bad attitude and then bad behavior. I couldn't help it. While I was back on my backup problems, Sally called and said Peggy would see me right now and to hurry. I did. Sally uncharacteristically led me right in to see Peggy. Peggy said: "Have your ladies boxed you in?" I was amazed how insightful she was. I said: "It feels that way Miss Peggy." Peggy said: "You may tell me your point of view, speak freely." I said: "To put it simply I can't surprise you if I have to ask permission, what are surprises - sometimes it's a present, or an invention, which may come from hunches and whims." Peggy said: "That was very elegant, what are you going to do about it?" I said: "I will try to satisfy Miss Carmen and Miss Betty." Peggy said: "I think you make an important point. I won't forget it." I said: "Thank you ma'am." Peggy said: "We are finished." I curtsied and left. I curtsied to Sally. Sally said: "I want to talk with you." I said: "Yes ma'am." Sally said: "I suddenly have a lot of power over you." I said: "Yes ma'am." Sally said: "I want you to tell me why you like Carmen better than me." I said: "Miss Sally I like you very much." Sally said: "You didn't answer my question." I said: "I spend lots of time with Miss Carmen because Miss Peggy assigned me to work for her, ma'am." Sally said: "Maybe if I whipped you, you would like me more." I said: "Yes ma'am, but before you do that perhaps I might be of service to you." Sally said: "How?" I said: "May I come back to you in a few hours?" Sally said: "I want you back here in two hours." I said: "Yes ma'am." I asked Carmen for a meeting in my office. She came. I stood and she sat. We closed the door. I said: "Miss Carmen I would like to speak with you as an associate instead of as a slave." Carmen said: "Okay, but if I tell you to stop you have to stop and if I don't like it I'll call Betty." I said: "Thank you ma'am. Sally just asked me why I like you better then her. I thought you might assign me to clean her toilet, and let her report her satisfaction to you." Carmen said: "What will Peggy think?" I said: "Evidently Sally has been on to Peggy and she empowered Sally - for which I was whipped and spent a night standing; present it to Peggy as Sally wants more and this is an idea, ma'am; one last thing is that I have to get back to Sally in less than two hours." Carmen said: "I'll think about it. Sally is your problem and you may no longer talk to me as an associate." I said: "Thank you Miss Carmen." About an hour later Carmen came to my office again and said: "Peggy said that was a wonderful idea and said I was very sensitive to the situation." Carmen closed the door and came around my desk and hugged me. Carmen said: "The caning and standing all night was because Sally is in to you, you poor boy." I said: "Miss Carmen you should visit Sally and make the arrangements." Carmen said: "You're right but I have the feeling that you're doing things without my prior permission and I told Betty I would report that to her." I said: "Miss Carmen, I wish you could forgive me for acting without permission if it benefits you." Carmen said: "Then you can do anything you want." I said: "And as long as it benefits you I think that's good, because if I didn't then all that benefit would disappear. I bear all the risk, if I do something without prior approval and it doesn't benefit you I expect to be punished." Carmen said: "Why can't you get permission?" I said: "Because I couldn't have said to Sally that I have to get permission to comfort you please wait, could I miss Carmen?" Carmen said: "No you couldn't, but I decide if it benefits me and if it doesn't work out I'll call Betty, I can see you're afraid of her." I said: "Yes ma'am;" I think I have Carmen's permission to do whatever benefits her without permission. After lunch Carmen sat in one of the chairs in my office. She said: "You may perform sweet acts without prior approval, what are they talking about." I asked: "What happened Miss Carmen?" "Peggy, Betty and I were in a meeting and you came up. Peggy said: 'You are an exceptional person and have many gifts to give. Not Betty, not me and not herself, could anticipate what those gifts will be. So while I support you keeping him on a short lease, you should let him give you his gifts.' Betty seemed to understand. I had no idea what she was talking about." I said: "What she meant is that you should let me do extra things without getting upset just because they're extra." Carmen said: "You can do whatever you want?" I said: "No ma'am because if you or Betty aren't pleased by what I did I'm still subject to your discipline. But what Peggy said was that if you are pleased then just accept it." "Okay, get back to work." Then Carmen left. Peggy came through, not because she was my friend but she wants solutions to problems and improvements to procedures that I might provide. I got to work on an unauthorized project, the browser problem: I downloaded Firefox, Opera and Safari and installed them. I viewed our web in each. It was apparent that the page painted normally only in Internet Explorer. I called the developer of our Integrated Development Environment and they knew of the problem. They told me how to download a fix. I did. It worked. I reported the problem and its solution to Carmen. Carmen came to my office and sat down. She said: "Did you just give me a sweet gift?" "I had a hunch it was a bug in our IDE rather than in our page, it was easy to check out but it was only a hunch." Carmen said: "I want an account of all the details." I said: "Yes ma'am." Carmen returned to my office: "I talked to Betty and you're checked out until 6:30, so clean the toilets and I'll buy you a beer." I said: "Thank you ma'am." It's exhilarating to fix a software bug, especially when a dear audience watches, especially Carmen. I cleaned the toilet with lots of energy. I realized one of the problems is there is no convenient place to throw paper towels on one end of the toilet. That's why there is so often paper on the floor. Everything was clean and shone when Carmen came in. I of course ended up on my knees. Carmen said: "You negotiated a compromise from Peggy and Betty, I want to know how you did it?" I said: "Peggy asked and I got on my knees with Betty and asked her. The question was do you want sweet gifts? And they said YES." Carmen said: "I really don't understand why you don't just get a job." I said: "Miss Carmen, I cannot explain it but I love being under your direction and I love what Betty is doing, but I felt that I could not let them lose my gifts." Carmen said: "I think you're crazy." "I can't help myself." "Address me properly, that came out automatically, sometimes I feel funny taking advantage of you." "Sorry Miss Carmen, on the contrary I feel I'm using you." Carmen said: "We are each other's proteges." I said: "Among my favorite memories is the week I spent with you." Carmen said: "Again you failed to address me properly, do you want me to tell Betty?" "Please no Miss Carmen." "Let's move to one of those high tables so you can stand, you're not supposed to be sitting in my presence." "Yes ma'am." "I sometimes dream of taking you home and whipping you until you pass out." "Why Miss Carmen?" "Because you become such a dedicated loving baby." "I'm dedicated to you now." "What does your wife think of Betty taking you over?" "I don't know. This whole relationship has been strange being handed around, speaking of that, what happened with you and Sally?" Carmen laughed: "I have handed you to Sally. Every morning after you clean downstairs, you will clean Sally and Peggy's toilet. Then whenever Sally feels it needs cleaning she will call you. She will give you a list of personal products to keep in the cabinet, and if she is not satisfied, she may cane you herself." "Thank you Miss Carmen." "Did I hear criticism from you?" "No ma'am, I can imagine how difficult that agreement was for you." "At first I was anxious about Sally, but then we talked and discussed you, we became friends." "I guess I should be scared." "You definitely are going to get more canings in front of the staff." "Please be sure Peggy is invited." "Why?" "Because I think she will make sure I'm not too abused." "Peggy is the one who told me to enforce time limits and order you to clean the toilets." "I sort of knew that but I think you've been pretty amazing the way you've carried it all out." I got a hug. I said: "She's not my friend but I'm one of her employees and one of yours, I heard the concern in your voice about the excess caning I might receive." Carmen laughed, "If you get excess caning its going to be because I want to give it to you and not anyone else telling me to." I said: "I love you Miss Carmen." Carmen and I talked non stop while she drove me home. I got the feeling she likes me and is comfortable working with me in our weird circumstance. I went to Betty's room and kissed her feet while waiting for her to recognize me. Betty said: "Tell me what is going on at work and what you did with Carmen." I explained about Sally, my new chores, and our discussion about sweet gifts. Betty said: "Try to explain to me why I should allow you to give me sweet gifts." I said: "When asked like that, the simple answer is that you won't get them otherwise, I mean no disrespect Miss Betty." Betty said: "Explain it to me." I said: "If I decide to buy you a present or do something sweet for you and you like it, you accept it. If you don't like it then I did something without getting approval. The risk is all mine." Betty said: "Why would you take such a risk?" I said: "Because I want to delight you every way I can." Betty said: "What if I liked it and still beat you." I said: "Miss Betty I am completely in your hands." Betty said: "Let's see what happens. You know my methods, and I don't make exceptions, but I may allow sweet gifts if I like them." I said: "Thank you Miss Betty." Betty said: "You have chores to do." I curtsied and said: "Yes ma'am." Betty set me up on a schedule so if I'm working on the schedule I have Betty's permission to be doing it. Between work and taking care of the house, there was almost no time that was not scheduled. So life settled into chores. There was no time for all the dalliances with the ladies that I so loved and I didn't get punished very often. read part thirty-eight the moment it's published by joining the DOMestic Newsfeed:- http://www.mschristine.com/newsfeed.shtml or follow on Twitter at:- https://twitter.com/DOMesticFemDom * * * next message * * * Re: S: Jim's Story - part thirty-seven http://u4ds.com/2012/01/jims_story_-_part_thirty-seven.shtml Date: 4 Feb 2012 23:42:05 -0000 From: Madame Pontellier I love following this story. It seems so mundane, no real whipping, bondage or other overtly femdom scenes, but the way the ladies treat Jim as such a casual piece of property really pushes my buttons. It reminds me of some stories about femdom that ted_subby has written recently (Links and Twitter names display on the DOMestic blog) * * * end of messages * * * Support DOMestic, get/renew your password at:- http://u4ds.com/password The Fem Dom Training Program. Warning! Turns your wife/lover into a Dominatrix. http://u4ds.com/program Copyright:- http://mschristine.com/cright.shtml * * * end of digest * * *